Frequently Asked Questions
As answered by "The Computer Cowboy"
Updated in 2002 by "A Fireman"
Q: What is the IRF?
A: IRF stands for International Rust Fest. We've had one each year since 1997. This year it will be held in the San Francisco Bay Area on October
24 through Sunday October 27 (the same weekend as the Bridge School Benefit.[BSB]) The idea is to get
Rusties together from all over the world in one spot: to finally meet, or to meet again, to laugh, have fun, party and enjoy lots of good music.
We begin on Thursday when Rusties, Zumans, LGOs and friends meet for dinner at
Alice's' Restaurant on Skyline Drive in Woodside followed by an evening of
talented Rustie performed acoustic music a t Old Princeton Landing (OPL) located
on the coast in Princeton-by-the-Sea This year the Friday night IRF Jam and
communal meal will again be held at Saratoga Springs Resort in Saratoga between
San Jose and Santa Cruz. The weekend is topped with the Saturday and Sunday BSB
shows at the Shoreline Amphitheatre in Mountainview, California. This year the fest will again be held at Saratoga Springs Resort in Saratoga near San Jose.
Q: What's this thing going to cost?
A: Cost for the Friday night party is $35 per person. "Festers"
between the ages of 13 and 18 with a parent are $25 and children between the
ages of 4 and 12 are $20. (Tykes under 4 are free) Details regarding advance
registration will be posted to the lists and the IRF web site. All "Festers"
will get a cool button to signify that you've helped out. Most of your other
expenses will be pay as you go. Travel expenses, lodging, food, concert tix,
etc. are all up to you. The expenses we have (and which are covered by your
registration fee) are the Friday night meal with beer, wine and soft drinks,
buttons, PA system for the jam, etc. Once the fest costs are paid, any extra $
will be given to the Bridge School. Details regarding advance registration will be posted to the lists and the IRF web site.
What does the fee for the fest cover?
A: Our goal is to be non-profit -- so we
are truly just trying to cover the costs of having the fest.fees pay for items
such as the Hilltop area at Saratoga Springs, the meal with drinks, the sound
system, and Kurt's electrolysis. Yes, we know that the electrolysis seems to
have become an annual event. Sorry -- he's pretty hairy. As mentioned above --
most other costs are "pay as you go".
Q. Why is the
registration fee higher this year?
A: Last year, the
vast majority of folks bought dinner for $20 (the real price should have been
$25, but we had an anonymous benefactor who donated several hundred dollars to
us and another person donated the popular IRF buttons. These folks aren't
doing it again this year). Everyone also paid the $10 registration fee. The
folks who DIDN'T buy dinner ended up paying a "day fee" to
Saratoga of up to $18/person, plus the registration fee of $10. If you look at
it this way, the fee is about the same as it would have been last year.
Saratoga Springs Resort sees us in the same light they see their corporate
clients...we gotta PAY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER to use the facilities. We
either have to buy dinners for everyone, or come up with a HUGE wad of
cash to rent the place for a few hours for the jam.
The committee chose to include the meal in the registration because, had we
decided NOT to, we would have still had to charge everyone about $30 to pay
for using the site. There would be no food, no beer, no wine. You'll get more
bang for your buck since we went the dinner route.
Q: Will I need to register as an attendee, or just show up?
A: Everybody needs to pre-register (even you "The
Conductor") this year in order that we can get a semi-accurate head count. Just
show up if you must and you just can't commit that far in advance and of course
no one will be turned away for not pre-registering. However, with the single
price structure for this year we really need to get a handle on how many are
expected at least 10 days in advance of the event. So please pre-register.
Q: What are some of the activities I can expect?
A: Here are just a few of the things you can expect:
- Live Rustie music! Acoustic and electric - Please bring an instrument if you can! It's a spontaneous jam -- see Nobody's note.
- Food -- there will be a catered meal including sliced beef, roasted chicken,
hot dogs, corn on the cob, salads, chili and smores for desert. All you can
drink keg beer, wine and soft drinks are also included in you registration fee.
There is a vegetarian option for those so inclined. Please let us know in
advance if you need the vegetarian garden burger option so we can make sure
there is enough.
- Tons of Rusties from all over the world -- Australia, UK, Canada, France, Japan, US, Germany, Netherlands, Mexico, and Kentucky. Come and chat with them, dance with them, share some spirits with them, smoke a peace pipe or sing a song -- all's fair at the IRF.
- A Bridge School Donation Raffle.
Q: What's the weather gonna be like?
A: The Conductor says: "My guess is that the average temp around here should be around 55 at night. It seems colder at Shoreline if the wind is blowing. That's why layered clothes are recommended there. In other words it's not that cold if you're prepared." Cowboy says: bull crap -- unless you are an
Eskimo you're gonna think it gets cold. :)
You might also want to check out Calistar's Bridge Benefit Concert-Goers Guide on
I would like to camp. Now if I want to camp at Saratoga Springs
Resort do I need to call them and make a reservation and pay 25 bucks a night,
or is there some special IRF group rate?
A: Anyone tent camping in the Saratoga IRF/Hilltop
Area gets a special IRF group rate. Tent campers for /Fri/Sat/Sun will pay a
flat fee of $30 per person. The $30 covers all three nights (normally it is
$25 [2 adults] per night.) For a list of fees beyond the IRF weekend, please
see the Saratoga Springs Resort
web site. You do not have to make a reservation for tent camping. If you want
to camp in an RV, the standard Saratoga Springs RV rate of $32 applies and you
really should make a reservation as early as possible by calling Saratoga
Springs directly at (408) 867-3016. Talk to either John or Elaina and make
sure to tell them that you are with the Rustie group. Any further questions
about camping can be directed to Chuck N. "A
Q: What if I want to stay only Friday and Saturday?
A: The fee is the same even if you don't stay all
three nights. Why? It simplifies Saratoga's job of policing who has paid and who
has not, and keeping things simple helps us keep the rates down.
Q: Do I have to pay camping for my 5 year old?
A: Saratoga Springs charges for everyone four and older.
Q: How do I reserve a camping spot?
A: You do not need to reserve a tent site. The special rate is for
a weekend group site in the Hilltop area. If you are "camping" in an RV, you
really should make a reservation as early as possible by calling Saratoga
Springs directly at (408) 867-3016. Talk to either John or Elaina and make sure
to tell them that you are with the Rustie group.
Q: What if I want to get to the IRF early, or stay later?
A: All other days are at regular rates.
Q: How do I know which spot is mine?
A: You don't need to reserve a specific spot -- just pick out your
spot when you get there!
Q: Will there be any problem getting transportation
from the resort to the amphitheater?
A: We plan to form car pools this year. And you
can always catch a ride with the RVs for a pre-show tailgate party.
transportation to and from the shows should be the least of your worries.
Q: Is it true that Neil has personally set aside seats for the
us Rusties at this year's Bridge Show?
A: Well, not exactly. Sheila (Lookout Mama) has worked real hard to secure a
limited # of Rust Row seats at both shows -- Details on how to acquire tickets
will be announced on the Rust List. Come on out, I promise you won't
Last updated on Sept 17, 2002.